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Retractions are not things any service enjoys to send out, especially not public, readable ones, however: in the interest of accuracy, and in accordance with our general policy, they are utterly necessary when we make mistakes which are larger than typing errors, which we are known to correct.
This retraction involves 2 events which both occurred, to our knowledge: in Bavaria, Germany, at around the same time: one conducted by the FSSPX / SSPX, a sect which was acting in direct disobedience to the Vatican via what they did, and the other done by the FSSP, who have left the SSPX for the mainstream.
Rorate Caeli reported on the ordination of 5 FSSP priests, seemingly in Bavaria Germany, at the same time as we were reporting on the Ordination of three SSPX priests in Bavaria, Germany. We assumed that they had misreported on the same issue, and they did not, to our knowledge note in their artilce any link to the FSSP.
The only hint, which we assume was certainly there at the time, was which bishop did the ordinations. We are not however in the habit of researching SSPX Bishops mentioned, and did not research the name provided by the blog: Rorate Caeli, which would have turned out to be a mainstream Catholic Bishop. We changed our rating in our articles of Rorate Caeli, from Catholic, to sympathetic with the SSPX, due to a perception that they were endorsing schism, something which took allot of time, when in fact Rorate Caeli were actually congratulating partakers in a perfectly licit event, simply nearby the proximity of another event.
We therefore are wading through the 8 Scripturelink Service articles we had altered, in order to take away our endorsement of Rorate Caeli as Catholic: now returning their status to Catholic!
With our multiple search resources, which we usually use, we apologize for assuming that we understood a story, without the adequate research, which we will hopefully provide in future. It is our public, and private search engines, by which our articles have become as sound as they are, along with general knowledge of the faith. We have in the past researched every important name mentioned by sources, perhaps we should return to this policy, at least where sources appear to have discrepencies: rather than simply noting apparent discrepencies.
Whenever we change the status of a seemingly Catholic website, we generally ensure a second opinion: in case we have made an error, in this case we asked Trinity Communications to review Rorate Caeli, noting our perception, in accordance with general policy. They returned our request, by noting that it was not in fact the SSPX ordination, which Rorate Caeli had been referring to. We then fact checked their conclusion, via the research we should have done into the Bishop who was noted as ordaining the 5 priests, and verified their facts.
It is fortunate that we were the ones who initiated an investigation into our own facts: via our tertiary, and just about never before necessary: policy of getting an informed, external second opinion, rather than have an error pointed out to us in a manner unrequested. While I regret making an official retraction, which we have not made in more than a while, I am glad that our service caught the error. Any errors in any sections of our articles, are important enough to adjust, and any errors can be reported to us, so that we may alter them.
The article directly affected has been altered. Changes made due to that article, have been changed back to the extent that the error has in our observation: been contained. We apologize for any inconvenience!
Marc Aupiais
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Tuesday, June 30, 2009
Sunday, June 28, 2009
SSPX goes ahead: ordains three men in Germany, despite threat of excommunication
(Tridentine South Africa; c.f. BBC World News (Secular; Governmental; British) 27 / 06 | June / 2009; Vatican information Service V.I.S 17 / 06 | June / 2009 ; Archive: 18 / 06 | June / 2009; Rorate Caeli (Catholic; Independent; Unknown; Traditionalist) 27 / 06 | June / 2009: http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2009/06/events_27.html)
[Noted Discrepancy cleared up: Rorate Caeli was refering to FSSP ordinations, in the same area and about the same time.]
Article by Marc Aupiais
According to the BBC, the SSPX / FSSPX (Fraternal Society of Saint Pius X), has gone ahead with three (3) ordinations, in Zaitzkofen, Bavaria, Germany. This despite the threat of excommunication, and Vatican opposition, and condemnation.
They ordained a Swiss (A man from Switzerland), a Pole (a man from Poland) and a Swede (a man from Sweden). The BBC had previously reported that the SSPX would ordain 30 men in June, however, this likely includes the additional ordination of priests (and possibly includes those planned of deacons) in America, and Switzerland, which the BBC, among other sources had noted to still be planned, by the SSPX. The SSPX's seminary's rector: cited the shortage of priests in Europe, as a reason to disobey the German and Vatican Church Authorities.
The German diocese in charge of the area, Regensburg, had said that the SSPX bishop, and three priests being in their view: illicitly, but validly (sacramentally) ordained: would likely incur excommunication.
The Catholic Bishop in charge of the Regensburg Diocese, which had noted possible excommunication, is Bishop Gerhard Müller.
The FSSPX/SSPX Bishop, who defied the Vatican, in addition to the applicable German diocese mentioned above, was reported prior the time to be SSPX Bishop Alfonso de Galaretta. Rorate Caeli, have an article about Bishop Athanasius Schneider ordaining 5 FSSP priests in the same area, however, this was an FSSP ordination, and the licit ordination of 5 FSSP has no relation to the Bavaria Ordinations of the 3 SSPX priests.
According to the Vatican (c.f. Vatican information Service V.I.S. 17 / 06 | June / 2009 ), who commented on the situation before the ordinations: the SSPX bishops and priests, while validly (Sacramentally) ordained, hold no legitimate (licit) authority in the church, and the ordinations, would be illicit (illegal).
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[Noted Discrepancy cleared up: Rorate Caeli was refering to FSSP ordinations, in the same area and about the same time.]
Article by Marc Aupiais
According to the BBC, the SSPX / FSSPX (Fraternal Society of Saint Pius X), has gone ahead with three (3) ordinations, in Zaitzkofen, Bavaria, Germany. This despite the threat of excommunication, and Vatican opposition, and condemnation.
They ordained a Swiss (A man from Switzerland), a Pole (a man from Poland) and a Swede (a man from Sweden). The BBC had previously reported that the SSPX would ordain 30 men in June, however, this likely includes the additional ordination of priests (and possibly includes those planned of deacons) in America, and Switzerland, which the BBC, among other sources had noted to still be planned, by the SSPX. The SSPX's seminary's rector: cited the shortage of priests in Europe, as a reason to disobey the German and Vatican Church Authorities.
The German diocese in charge of the area, Regensburg, had said that the SSPX bishop, and three priests being in their view: illicitly, but validly (sacramentally) ordained: would likely incur excommunication.
The Catholic Bishop in charge of the Regensburg Diocese, which had noted possible excommunication, is Bishop Gerhard Müller.
The FSSPX/SSPX Bishop, who defied the Vatican, in addition to the applicable German diocese mentioned above, was reported prior the time to be SSPX Bishop Alfonso de Galaretta. Rorate Caeli, have an article about Bishop Athanasius Schneider ordaining 5 FSSP priests in the same area, however, this was an FSSP ordination, and the licit ordination of 5 FSSP has no relation to the Bavaria Ordinations of the 3 SSPX priests.
According to the Vatican (c.f. Vatican information Service V.I.S. 17 / 06 | June / 2009 ), who commented on the situation before the ordinations: the SSPX bishops and priests, while validly (Sacramentally) ordained, hold no legitimate (licit) authority in the church, and the ordinations, would be illicit (illegal).
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Thursday, June 18, 2009
Vatican: Lefebvrite (SSPX) Bishops have no authority in Church: as german Diocese threatens Excommunications of SSPX Bishop, Priests
(Tridentine South Africa; c.f. BBC World News (British; Governmental; Secular) 17 / 06 (June) / 2009 ; Zenit News Service (Catholic; Independent; American) 15 / 06 (June) / 2009 ; 17 / 06 (June) / 2009 ; Catholic Culture News briefs (American; Catholic; Independent) on 08 / 06 (June) / 2009 ; 17 / 06 (June) / 2009; Vatican information Service (VIS) (Vatican Based; Hierarchical; Catholic) 17 / 06 (June) 2009)
Article By Marc Aupiais
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Timeline:
Article:
As the SSPX reportedly desires to ordain 30 new priests, in multiple different (The BBC mentions Germany and the United States of America (U.S.A)) countries: both one German Diocese, and the Vatican itself, have set out tough warnings.
Bavaria, Germany
Of the situation in Germany, on Monday the Eighth of June, it was reported: that Regensburg Diocese, under Bishop Gerhard Müller, has warned German SSPX leaders, that their Bishop, and the priests he validly, but illicitly ordains: will "almost certainly" (Zenit News Service (Catholic; Independent; American) 15 / 06 (June) / 2009) face excommunication, if they go through with ordinations (to be done by Levebvrite (SSPX) Bishop Alfonso de Galaretta), set for 27th June 2009: in Bavaria, inside the well known Western European country.
The rector, of the SSPX's Zaitzkofen, Bavarian seminary, has declared that the ordinations will go ahead, citing an alleged "Emergency" situation in the Church, and the recent decline in the Church in Europe, claiming loyalty to church and pope.
On the 17th of June, the situation had Yesterday, possibly escalated:
Vatican Information Service (V.I.S), published a Vatican Press Release:
The second notice, while reported as though fresh by some: possibly from reading the V.I.S. article, as regards the restructuring of Ecclesia Dei, is not unexpected, as Pope Benedict XVI had already in March expressed such a desire to reconstitute the organization. In fact, is seems to us, as you may note above, to simply be a reference to the same letter, in which Benedict XVI, expressed such desire in March. This would mean that the hype over this reference to Ecclesia Dei, was due to human error on behalf of the media which reported this as fresh, and a misreading of the release.
The possible confusion, which sees such desire as fresh, may relate to a likely accurate report that: SSPX Bishop Bernard Fellay, had already claimed (in an article Zenit published on the 15th of June), that:
As many of the surface differences between the SSPX and the Vatican are doctrinal, especially involving the Vatican II Council, this possible reconsttution of "Ecclesia Dei" was, at the time in March, when first mentioned: not an unexpected move, theoretically.
Context:
When Cardinal Re, of the Congregation for Bishops: lifted the excommunications of the 4 SSPX bishops: there was allot of confusion, and mixed statements from various bodies. In our timeline, we have noted some main events, which link to speeches and inter alia: Vatican based articles. These are meant to give some context.
As our service had already noted long before the mainstream news: the lifting of their excommunications did not give the SSPX / FSSPX Bishops any legitimate authority within the church: the excommunications' lifting: meant that they could possibly go to confession, or take communion, the second being: provided they were not inter alia in Mortal Sin. They could not legitimately act as bishops, or priests.
The statements by the Vatican, mean that the situations in Germany and the United States, have been noted. It may simply be another statement of accepted facts on the half of the Vatican, but once again possibly signals more trouble in the negotiations process.
It could also mean that perceived progress, has only been on the surface, with both Society (of st. Pius X), and Vatican: remaining in the same general situation as before.
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2 July 1988: ECCLESIA DEI: John Paul II: 4 "Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X "/"SSPX"/"FFSPX" Bishops Excommunicated "LATAE SENTENTIAE" on 30 June 1988; as had been declared the day before, by Decree of the Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops on 1 July 1988;
Ecclesia Dei: Organization formed to facilitate relations with SSPX: with aims of bringing them back into full communion: doctrinally and sacramentally
27 October 1998: STATUS OF THE SOCIETY OF ST. PIUS X: Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei: SSPX a schism, however: as it is a priestly schism: not all laity attending their churches are in schism: in extreme danger of such though
7 July 2007: SUMMORUM PONTIFICUM: Benedict XVI: ON THE USE OF THE ROMAN LITURGY PRIOR TO THE REFORM OF 1970: Priests may perform the mass via: Tridentine Liturgy's Order of the (Latin) Mass
21 January 2009: DECREE REMITTING THE EXCOMMUNICATION "LATAE SENTENTIAE" OF THE BISHOPS OF THE SOCIETY OF ST PIUS X: Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re: Congregation for Bishops: Re lifts Excommunications, after Benedict XVI expressed wishes to explore new avenues of bringing SSPX back into full communion. Excommunication is a pastoral measure to ignite repentance, and prevent spread.
Radio Vaticana: Vatican Lifts excommunications of SSPX Bishops: "The four bishops are Bernard Fellay the superior general of the Society of Saint Pius X, Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Richard Williamson and Alfonso del Gallareta" : 25 / 01 (Jan) / 2009: following oaths of allegience the Vatican gained from the four
10 March 2009: LETTER OF HIS HOLINESS POPE BENEDICT XVI:TO THE BISHOPS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CONCERNING THE REMISSION OF THE EXCOMMUNICATION: OF THE FOUR BISHOPS CONSECRATED BY ARCHBISHOP LEFEBVRE: Benedict XVI: notes controversy around Williamson, SSPX are not legitimate part of hierarchy, Pope wants to place the commission of "Ecclesia Dei", set up to deal with SSPX as part of "Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith",
Radio Vaticana: copy of same letter by Benedict XVI: they publish it on 12 March 2009
12 March 2009: Radio Vaticana: "Fr Federico Lombardi, SJ, Head of the Press Office of the Holy See" on Benedict XVI's Letter explaining the lifting of the excommunication
12 March 2009: Radio Vaticana: "Bishops Welcome Pope's Letter"
Article:
As the SSPX reportedly desires to ordain 30 new priests, in multiple different (The BBC mentions Germany and the United States of America (U.S.A)) countries: both one German Diocese, and the Vatican itself, have set out tough warnings.
Bavaria, Germany
Of the situation in Germany, on Monday the Eighth of June, it was reported: that Regensburg Diocese, under Bishop Gerhard Müller, has warned German SSPX leaders, that their Bishop, and the priests he validly, but illicitly ordains: will "almost certainly" (Zenit News Service (Catholic; Independent; American) 15 / 06 (June) / 2009) face excommunication, if they go through with ordinations (to be done by Levebvrite (SSPX) Bishop Alfonso de Galaretta), set for 27th June 2009: in Bavaria, inside the well known Western European country.
The rector, of the SSPX's Zaitzkofen, Bavarian seminary, has declared that the ordinations will go ahead, citing an alleged "Emergency" situation in the Church, and the recent decline in the Church in Europe, claiming loyalty to church and pope.
On the 17th of June, the situation had Yesterday, possibly escalated:
Vatican Information Service (V.I.S), published a Vatican Press Release:
"ORDINATIONS BY FRATERNITY OF ST. PIUS X REMAIN ILLEGITIMATEReconstitution of "Ecclesia Dei"
VATICAN CITY, 17 JUN 2009 (VIS) - The Holy See Press Office published the following communique at midday today:
"In response to the frequent questions that have been raised over recent days concerning the priestly ordinations by the Fraternity of St. Pius X, scheduled to take place at the end of June, suffice it to refer to what the Holy Father wrote in his Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church on 10 March this year: "As long as the Society (of St. Pius X) does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church. ... Until the doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has no canonical status in the Church, and its ministers ... do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church".
In the same Letter, the Pope also announced his intention to change the status of the Commission 'Ecclesia Dei', making it part of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. There is reason to believe that the definition of this new status is imminent. This constitutes a premise for launching dialogue with the leaders of the Fraternity of St. Pius X, with a view to clarifying the doctrinal questions, and consequently the disciplinary questions, which remain unresolved".
OP/ORDINATIONS/FRATERNITY ST. PIUS X VIS 090617 (230)"
The second notice, while reported as though fresh by some: possibly from reading the V.I.S. article, as regards the restructuring of Ecclesia Dei, is not unexpected, as Pope Benedict XVI had already in March expressed such a desire to reconstitute the organization. In fact, is seems to us, as you may note above, to simply be a reference to the same letter, in which Benedict XVI, expressed such desire in March. This would mean that the hype over this reference to Ecclesia Dei, was due to human error on behalf of the media which reported this as fresh, and a misreading of the release.
The possible confusion, which sees such desire as fresh, may relate to a likely accurate report that: SSPX Bishop Bernard Fellay, had already claimed (in an article Zenit published on the 15th of June), that:
Cardinal William Levada, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, had on the 5th of June, informed him, that the Pontifical Commission of "Ecclesia Dei", would be reconstituted as a part of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
As many of the surface differences between the SSPX and the Vatican are doctrinal, especially involving the Vatican II Council, this possible reconsttution of "Ecclesia Dei" was, at the time in March, when first mentioned: not an unexpected move, theoretically.
Context:
When Cardinal Re, of the Congregation for Bishops: lifted the excommunications of the 4 SSPX bishops: there was allot of confusion, and mixed statements from various bodies. In our timeline, we have noted some main events, which link to speeches and inter alia: Vatican based articles. These are meant to give some context.
As our service had already noted long before the mainstream news: the lifting of their excommunications did not give the SSPX / FSSPX Bishops any legitimate authority within the church: the excommunications' lifting: meant that they could possibly go to confession, or take communion, the second being: provided they were not inter alia in Mortal Sin. They could not legitimately act as bishops, or priests.
The statements by the Vatican, mean that the situations in Germany and the United States, have been noted. It may simply be another statement of accepted facts on the half of the Vatican, but once again possibly signals more trouble in the negotiations process.
It could also mean that perceived progress, has only been on the surface, with both Society (of st. Pius X), and Vatican: remaining in the same general situation as before.
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